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Greg82
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Posted: Thu Mar 20th, 2008 01:38 am |
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Talk all about and brag about How much you have made.... This is one of my biggest pet pevs. It is a weak move unfortunately so many people do it and we let them get away with it. Its not duplicatible by your team and it means absolutely nothing. Not to mention that so called proof is not hard to fake. Im afraid many do. Recruit people with what you can do for them not how much you have made. Ryan Dunn wrote a really good blog about this at http://www.whoisryandunn.com called warning where he goes into the dangers of this a little more in depth. I agree I think its a destructive way of marketing and should ruin ones reputation if the try to use it.
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Ronda
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Posted: Thu Mar 20th, 2008 03:10 pm |
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| I agree with you, Greg82. Wild claims of outlandish income in a matter of days is not what people need. They need the truth, and the truth is that hard work is involved. Even with hard work, nobody is an overnight success. People deserve to know just what it takes to succeed; they do not need for everything to be sugar-coated.
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doveygirl6
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Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 06:18 pm |
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| I just wanted to say thanks for these tips. I hope that the longer I am on here, the more that I can share in return. Sometimes it's easy to be inundated with tips and information online, but it's nice to hear things from fellow home based business owners! Last edited on Mon Mar 24th, 2008 06:18 pm by doveygirl6
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Greg82
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 02:59 am |
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Thank you Rohnda! It just bothers me seeing all these peopleThrowing around so called "proof." bragging about how much they have made, flashing their "house" or their "car". It is getting out of control. What ever happened to being humble?
First of all what difference does it make how much they made? Shouldn't you be concerned how much they are going to help you make? I cant tell you the number of top income earners I know that do NOTHING to help there team duplicate.
The other problem is their team members naturally fell like they have to do what there fearless leader is doing.
So they start to make these claims even if the results aren't true out of desperation. This is a huge problem and there are not very many people doing anything about it.
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Mariasbusiness
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 04:36 am |
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I've seen a lot of business bashing. It's not professional to bad mouth other businesses. I watched youtube videos, read websites and ads accusing many different quality businesses of being a scam. If your company is a quality company you won't need to bad mouth others.
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jdpugsle
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 03:04 am |
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I would say that being obnoxious or selling on forums is wrong. I would also add that not being honest in the facts you present could ruin your credibility. Not offering helpful advise or deliberately ignoring others is not a good idea either and could be sending the message-"What I have to say, is more important than what you have to say."
That is not what we want to do. That will only hurt you in the long run. As Micheal previously mentioned, we are here to offer useful information that is beneficial to others. As well as educational. Wouldn't you not agree?....
Or if your company is product orientented and you say that you will deliver your product by a certain date and you fail to do so as promised.
If possible, always try to back up your advise with references or a book or some other media that gives the recipient a way to varify the information your presenting. This will build trust.
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MLM Mentor
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Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 12:05 am |
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Probably the most important thing to do for me is to honestly check my motives.
What is motivating me to make contact with that individual?
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marcromero
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 02:05 am |
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I love this thread, no matter if you are a newbie or seasoned networker we can all learn from something like this.
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tigerharris
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Posted: Sun Apr 20th, 2008 10:34 am |
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1) Try and promote your biz opp on this forum instead of offering Networking tips
to help fellow members get responses to your Post.
2) Offer genuine insight or advice to forum members trying to get more results instead of hackers trying to post needless fodder to enhance their program.
3) Come on the forum to air your dirty laundry or to tell people your personal plights and drama, call go on the whiners forum down the highway.
4) The best way to get a better conversion rate is to offer advice that will help Networks solve their issues or problems that way you may be perceived as an expert and more people will pay attention to your posts instead of ignoring them because your offering advice with no strings attached.
5) Don't name a person and then bash them and go off on a flaming frenzy simply state that this has happened to you too and offer a couple of ways to handle this.
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DaleSwain
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Posted: Mon Apr 21st, 2008 02:24 pm |
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A lot of times, someone new feels likes they don’t have the experience or success story to recruit others, so they stretch the truth or tried to hide their insufficiencies. When in reality, they should do the exact opposite. I was able to connect with people and separate myself from the crowd by just being totally honest... including admitting the areas I was weak in. If you let your integrity and passion shine, it trumps a lot on deficiencies.
The other thing I might add is to always under-promise and over-deliver. It is tempting to "promise the moon", especially when you are new. But you are setting yourself up for failure when you do this. Most people (at least those you want on your team) are not looking for the best deal – rather they are looking for the right fit.
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jdpugsle
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 02:56 am |
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First, I would like to start off, that I have heard some insightful information on this forum.
I would say, that trying to sell your biz opp right off the bat, without building a good fundation first, with the prospect. By giving educational information, and is insightful as well as useful. This is a common error with most network marketers.
They go for the hard sell immediately this is a big mistake so they go running and the networker blows it!
They must learn marketing which is the art of attraction whether it is offline marketing like direct mail, post cards, flyers, newspaper ads. Online marketing like classified ads, websites, blogs.
It is not just what is done, it is how it is done that is important. Integrity is very important. You can loose credibiliy in a hurry if you make exaggerated claims or if you over promise this will turn them your prospective customers off & they will tune you out. Chances are good that you will never get them back.
We need to realize that people are bombarded with hundreds of advertising messages everyday. So, the last thing they want to hear is another advertising message.
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mark phelps
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 07:29 am |
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I agree whether in forum or any of the social sites, the idea is to make new friends and share ideas.
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JaniceR
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 04:48 pm |
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I supposed this goes without saying, but tell the truth. And I seriously mean it. sometimes the truth is ugly but it is worth telling. I shared my story of MLM with someone the other day and told the complete truth. She is not signing up to be a distributor but if she ever does, I'm sure it will be with me as I didn't sugar coat or hype anything up. She really appreciated the honesty.
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Gery_D
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 01:39 am |
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FreedomFire wrote:
* Don't attack the messenger....debate the topic. Everyone will not agree on everything. It's best to agree to disagree...and seek mutual education and understanding in that vein. Attacking an individual benefits no one and hurts everyone involved.
* Don't impose your view....no one is/has the perfect "anything". Arrogance, ego, conceit, rigidity have no place in true dialogue and real networking. It's about the community....NOT YOU. Be open and encouraging to divergent views and opinions of others. Acknowledging and even appreciating those who differ from you actually promotes a more healthy networking community.
Michael
Those two go hand in hand, I believe, and actually lead to a third or extension of the latter at any rate.
Don't feel the need to have the last word in a disagreement. More importantly don't feel that if you explain it one more time, after four or five go 'rounds already, that the person disagreeing with you will suddenly get it!
I have a simple rule of thumb in scenarios where someone wants to belabor a point and I know I'm correct. When someone wants to be confronting on an issue, I'll give them the courtesy of a reply. If they choose to debate further and I'm disproved I acknowledge that and publicly stand corrected. Otherwise I'll present some other supporting point or view from a different angle. If they choose to carry it on then it's time to restate my position, thank them for offering them theirs and reminding everyone that one of the greatest benefits of freedom of speech is that we are all entitled to voice our opinion.
...no matter how right or wrong it might be.
It's not worth dragging it out and there is a point that if you are right it shows and if they aren't going to get it in three exchanges they probably won't get it in thirteen. They may not even want to. However the longer you stand there and try to go toe to toe in your own defense the more you look as foolish a the person you are debating.
Remember that winners aren't always the last ones standing.
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terryfinlay
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 04:12 pm |
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Hi,
Very unique and interesting tips over here guys, thanks a tonne for sharing...
These advices are really very much helpful for me...
Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 04:19 pm by terryfinlay
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johnaydan
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 01:44 am |
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I have a simple rule of thumb in scenarios where someone wants to belabor a point and I know I'm correct. When someone wants to be confronting on an issue, I'll give them the courtesy of a reply. If they choose to debate further and I'm disproved I acknowledge that and publicly stand corrected. Otherwise I'll present some other supporting point or view from a different angle. If they choose to carry it on then it's time to restate my position, thank them for offering them theirs and reminding everyone that one of the greatest benefits of freedom of speech is that we are all entitled to voice our opinion.
Very interesting strategy there Gery, thanks a tonne for sharing...
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zerodollarmarketer
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 07:31 pm |
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I should add, for a reminder -
Promoting PONZI schemes makes you look greedy, like
you don't care about other people, and like you can't do
math.
I'm not talking about MLMs. I am talking about clear Ponzi
Schemes, the kind that always collapse and destroy people's
lives.
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BigMoneyjoe
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 04:51 am |
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I see newbies spam big time in message boards. Most of them are under the impression that spamming is what leads to making good money online. Most of these newbies are desperate, picked up a clickbank product and were told in some ebook that "The Best Traffic Is Forum Traffic - Post As Often As You Can".
Most people take this litterly and flood the forums with useless content. That useless content often being in the form of shameless plugging of their website. This just never works, people sense the B.S a mile away and they back off.
So my advice to those aspiring entrepreneurs out there would be to focus on deliviering value and offering content to contribute.
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DL Pratt
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 03:00 pm |
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I think the general rule is to be more of a giver than a taker. Particpating in the forum discussions and providing your experiences without having to "push a product" goes a long way.
If you have something that can provide legitimate value or help solve someones problem then it is perfectly fine to provide that information.
Another way is to send that resource to the individual via PM rather than spamming links just to gain traffic.
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wealth4ever
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 12:36 am |
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One thing I find offputting is the " my friend tells me " approach. It smacks of the "I am one of the in crowd" syndrome, and if you don't join me you will be left out. 
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